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LOGO-L> Lots of fantastic ideas for Lego/ Dacta




jstclair@omsd.cerf.fred.org
Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:35 pdt

Renee',

Your request for ideas on using LEGO Logo inspired me to look back at an
exchange of ideas last May. I'm re-posting a message from that
discussion.

John St. Clair
--Message below re-posted by <jstclair@omsd.cerf.fred.org>
Date - 17 May 1995 22:48:05 -0500
To - &sig.logo
Subject - Lots of fantastic ideas for Lego/ Dacta
Schlnet: schl.sig.logo
Six days ago one of my 7th grade students was moping around unable to get
anything going with Lego Dacta that he was excited about. I suggested he put
a note on this list and over the last 6 days we have gotten 10 wonderful
responses. I have compiled them and am sending them out to everyone to enjoy
and contemplate. Thanks for all the great input. (My student, Nevan has been
absent and hasn't yet seen the results of his first internet querry.)

Hello this is Nevan I have just finished a project on lego dacta. It was of
some type of machine that transports little pieces of lego and it reads the
color of the block and puts it in a certain bin. I was trying to think of a
new project, but I only have three weeks of classes left to do it in, do you
have any suggestions? Thank you.
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Build a system that communicates with Moresse Code.  using flashes of
light.
You'll need to build two fo themof them, one for each of two computers
so you
can send and receive emessages from one to the other,.
Have fun.
-Michael The Logo Foundation phone: 212 765 4918
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Hi, Nevan!
One thing you could do if your project is not yet taken apart is to make more
of it. Why not make it a tester for potential employment? How fast can
someone load the bricks -- i.e., how many in a given time. Then how many by
color, etc. And have your program report back on the time, success rate, etc.
You could even create a graph of their progress. Gosh, the project could go
on forever!
Eadie Adamson eadie@aol.com
Webmaster, Scholastic Central URL: http://scholastic.com:2005
Scholastic Internet Services
555 Broadway, New York, NY 10012-3999 212-505-5840 fax: 212-343-4951
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Nevan
Have you ever tried making a little trundle wheel, calibrated to read out
measurements? You can make it more sophisticated if you like, so it can
measure and draw a scale 3D model of any cuboidal solid(ie, a box),
complete with the dimensions etc printed out in the screen. All the best
Jeff Richardson
Faculty of Education
Monash University
AUSTRALIA 3068
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Hi Nevan,
It would help to know which kind of legos you are working with. My
students have used LEGO TC Logo and made a washing machine, conveyor
belt, merry-go-round, robot with bumpers, slot machine, cars, and stop
light. They have used the Control Lab to make a robotic arm,
dynomometer, vending machine, wheel chair controlled by a LEGO joy stick,
and a draw bridge. All of the above projects were made from ideas in the
LEGO kits. John St. Clair
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Hi, Nevan.
One of the activities I haven't got the kids to do this year and wanted to,
was to design a Mars rover that could withstand either falling into all of
the crators on Mars or all the high winds (300 mph.)
Also, my 3rd graders built a car that went 4.2 mph. Can you beat it?
Maggie
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Make a simple car that can climb a determined inclined board as fast as
possible. If you use a fast gear, it will net be strong enough. If you yse
a slow gear, it will be strong enough but not fast enough. The game is to
find the best gear ratio. Involves much gesr work, but no programming.

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3300 Cote-Vertu, suite 201
Montreal, Quebec, Canada H4R 2B7
(514) 331-7090, Fax (514) 331-1380
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Years ago when I taught older kids we tried:
Morse code sender and receiver
A wheeled machine that you push manually through some pattern, the computer
learns it and from then on runs the machine independently.  -- I hear lawn
mowers that will do this are being developed.  the first time you do your
lawn, you push it in the pattern, after that it just goes!  -- needs sensors
to avoid running over small children and pets.

We have lunch credit cards which are coded with 15 squares of black or white with a max of 9 black. This inspired the kids to make a machine that rolled across the cards and read the pattern of blocks and reinterpreted it as a binary number. Similar thing to do with bar codes, I guess. =============================8=========================

Here are some ideas we have: I've always wanted to build a LEGO/Logo cube that can fold up and unfold itself. Maybe your sorting machine could use color markers to draw depending on what color LEGO brick it sees? Or could it draw on the screen to represent what it is "seeing."

Karen, who works with me, also suggested the following ideas:

Machines that. . . * Sort according to size. * That could build themselves -the moving mountain that takes itself apart and shifts. . . kind of like White Sands New Mexico. * Launch things -ping pong balls, paper airplanes, tops etc... Build a structure that . . . * Supports great weight (create your own method of testing) * Can withstand tremors (create your own method of testing) * Has four functions -make them really wacky things * Is organic looking / or is inspired by nature -could be tricky Youth Computer Center ============================9========================== Nevan, By now you probably have received lots of ideas, but just in case you're still looking, here's one. I remember that when LEGO-Logo was first being used in schools, that some groups did a lot of work making clocks. It might be quite a challenge to make a clock with an hour hand, a minute hand, and a second hand. If that is too easy, you might want to figure out a way to make it run steadily. You could make a pendulum clock powered by weights, a clock powered by elastic bands, a "clock-work" motor of some sort, or some other source (even an electric motor). You could learn about how an escapement mechanism works. If you decide to do this, please let me know how you made out. Dr. William J. Egnatoff, Assistant Professor, Computers in Education Faculty of Education Queen's University at Kingston Kingston, Ontario, Canada K7L 3N6 egnatoff@educ.queensu.ca ************************************10************************************ I don't know what grade you are working with or how much lego time three Weeks is for you (i class time) but i have used two that might be of Interest. Design a robot animal that mimics some behavior in the real World or build a invention that can retreive a four square unit lego brick Square and retrieve the brick and return to its original position with the Brick.

If these are too adventurpus their are a number of good structure design Activities that are challenging. Build a lego structure that will stand :x Tall and hold :y weight (this could specified in poundage or it could be Something such as two specified dictionaries). Examine the structures of The most successful structures at this task. What conclusions can you Draew about structures? Connect to real world structures?

Hope this helps JANICE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------

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